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Journal Entry: Sat Feb 7, 2009, 7:30 AM




As a reaction to these two news articles recently posted on the subject of DA's policy on tracing: [link] and [link] , I have deactivated all of the prints from my DA prints account, like a few other artists I know. I do not wish to financially support this website anymore, sorry.

So, for now, prints sales are on hold. I'll get back to selling prints through my Etsy account and my website very soon.


No offense to anyone, but tracing is not creative. Tracing is not original. Tracing does not mean that the result of your traced lines is YOUR work. Tracing has nothing to do in an artistic community, where we should thrive to hone our skills by confronting ourselves to criticism, and to get constructive advice. What kind of constructive advice can you give to someone about a traced work? How is it creative to trace someone's work, even if you "add your own original elements"?

Maybe for some people, tracing is a learning tool. I'm not against tracing as an educational tool, but the result of those studies should be kept private, and has nothing to do in a public gallery on DA.

All the excuses made for tracing that are written in these articles are extremely lame, and just show how DA's policy lately has been to sacrifice quality, respect, skill and emulation to attracting the largest number of people and growing into a huge, low-quality database. And this, even to the point of disregarding the law, as it seems.
It just sends the wrong message to young artists. This sends the wrong message TO this community, and ABOUT this community. DA already doesn't exactly have a good reputation as an art community, and this will certainly not help.

Promoting low standards and cheap shortcuts is not going to help anybody in this community... why would you try to improve when you can trace, and nobody's going to tell you anything as long as the original creator doesn't complain?


[EDIT] Just to clarify: my main concern is *not* whether *my* art is going to be more or less traced and copied as it currently is. What I do find annoying is that it doesn't promote creative thinking to developing artists around here. There's no point denying it: we're all sensitive to feedback, good comments, favs, popularity, etc. Yes, it's motivating to feel supported. My question is, would I have improved the way I have if, when I joined DA six years ago as a beginner, tracing and eyeballing had not been much frowned upon? Would I have done the effort to try and develop my own work, if I had received better feedback by tracing and had been told it was alright as long as the original artist doesn't say anything? Would you? Would we? I don't know. Some of us would have anyway, but maybe that some of us wouldn't have. I think it's sad for developing artists today that we are sending the message that developing your own skills, your own creativity, is not really important.


Ok, rant over.


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:iconcake-chan:
I totally agree. dA needs to start making some GOOD changes.
:iconmelyannam:
:nod: I was thinking of deactivating everything here until further notice. But I'll have to reconsider it and see what my fellow artists think.

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:iconpyrothefox:
I couldn't have said it better myself. ..no, really, I couldn't. :lol:

I've never been a big fan of DA's policies, and this one just proves how completely misguided they are.

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:iconwendyw:
I agree with you 100%.
I really don't understand the policy at all. I'm all for fan art being included, in the sense that someone has sat down a drawn fan art from scratch, but to allow tracing in the fan art galleries is ridiculous and also devalues the whole category in the eyes of many people which is really a shame because there are plenty of good artists who upload to it, who just enjoy doing original takes on characters they love. This whole policy just cheapens that I think.

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:iconlookingback7:
Preach it!

Also tracing is NOT an educational tool! This is one of the first things they teach you in art school. You learn NOTHING from tracing except to rely on it instead of develop your own skill. Tracing is a SHORT CUT only. And, yes, sometimes it is used by professionals in the industry for EXPEDIENCY in meeting deadlines (in comics, graphic arts, and film, ect) NOT ARTISTIC PURPOSES.

There's a difference.

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:iconkmye-chan:
:/ I've never been a fan of their policies regarding copyrights and "art theft" (or whatever you want to call it) myself either, but now it's getting muddier and muddier than ever. First allowing eyeballs with "sufficient differences" (but I've learnt from experience that flipping horizontally the original before eyeballing it is enough to be "sufficiently different"!), and now allowing tracing...

Call me an elitist meanie, but in my opinion, the only valid policy for a serious art community should be "do your own, and don't use anything copyrighted unless you have explicit permission".

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:iconl-a-l:
yes, well said.
:iconsazael:
C'est de plus en plus décourageant... déjà, les 'vrais' artistes qui veulent utiliser dA comme un tremplin sont plus qu'enclins à chercher une alternative à ce site qui devient vraiment du n'importe quoi... populaire et commercial, tout est bon pour faire du profit apparemment.
Tout ça dégoûte vraiment de poster quoi que ce soit de personnel maintenant. C'est vraiment dommage.


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:iconkmye-chan:
Well, personnally I'm definitely keeping my account here, because if someone's going to trace my work, I prefer to make sure that the original was on my page first and has been seen by a large number of people. :)

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:iconkmye-chan:
:/ Pareil pour moi. Je garde cette galerie en grande partie parce que je suis vile et intéressée et qu'il y a beaucoup de passage sur ma page, mais... ce site m'agace de plus en plus, c'est vraiment pas sérieux. J'aimais bien le fait que ce soit très diversifié et qu'il n'y ait pas de niveau minimum pour poster, comme sur d'autres sites, mais là... ça devient du grand n'importe quoi. Je crois qu'il va être grand temps d'aller voir ailleurs.

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